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This page is for the staff of the Elftown Wiki Poetry Dueling Arena. Here will be posted updates and news that pertain to the staff members. The general public are welcome to come and read this news, to see what's up with the staff, but keep in mind that here will be posted general problems, news, and other updates that are relevant mostly only to staff members.
Staff members, feel free to ask questions and make relevant comments in the comment board below. Irrelevant questions and/or comments will be removed, and the commenter will be directed to a more appropriate page and/or person.

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February 20, 2006:
Sorry, guys, I've been slacking in my duties (if you haven't noticed already, there are submissions yet unreviewed), however I do have an excellent reason. I'd have told y'all sooner, but I quite forgot about this page (sorry!), as it's new, and I'm not used to using it.

I am in the process of moving to a new apartment, and do not know when I will be able to regularly access the 'net again. Staff members, I would truly appreciate it if some of you would volunteer to do more than one category temporarily, and I need a volunteer to read through the submissions as well, and move them to the appropriate queue, again temporarily. If you volunteer for either job, I expect it to be done, else I will give the job to someone else. I'm not disappearing completely.

This applies to updating the category you're in charge of, as well. If you regularly neglect to update your category without giving a good reason (and trust me, that's not a hard thing to do. I will accept most excuses) for five consecutive weeks, I will give your category to someone else. If you return and your category has been given to another staff member, and you have a good reason for your absence, your category will be returned to you.

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February 5, 2006:
Great work, staff members! We've had minimal problems so far. I've already had to cover for a few people, and only once because I wasn't informed. That was this week. Which brings me to the problem that prompted me to creat this page, and to separate an "Arena Admin Only" helper house. This house ([Ergraf]) was generously donated by one [Moorn], who has helped in the arena before, when I was talking to him about my current problem, which I will get to shortly. It will be the owner of all of the Elftown Wiki Poetry Dueling Arena's pages, so that my heart doesn't stop again, as it did tonight.

The problem that occurred, that I keep bringing up, is that I found myself unable to sign in to one of the helper houses ([To Make You Think]), and suspect that the staff member in charge of To Make You Think ... was responsible for this change in the password. Staff members, please do not, ever, change any of the passwords on any pages and/or Houses associated with the Elftown Wiki Poetry Dueling Arena. The House in question is the current owner of all of the Arena's wiki pages, and tonight, my heart about leaped out of my chest, as I was afraid that perhaps the staff member had changed some of the wiki passwords, as well. My fears appear to have been in vain, fortunately, but this showed me that there may be need for a separate House to hold ownership of all of the pages. One with restricted access.

I know this is a long bit of news, but I felt the need to explain thoroughly our situation. And remember, staff members, do not change the passwords to these wikis and the Houses.

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April 3, 2006:
I've been thinking about this for a few weeks now, off and on, and I think it may be time to expand the Arena a little bit, and add another category to begin dueling. Right now, there are a lot (relatively) of poems queued in Dark, so I was thinking that we would split it up, and re-make the Sad category, which was closed and combined with Dark before the Arena was re-opened.

Also, I've noticed a few poems that would fit better in the Fantasy category, which was closed completely, rather than combined with another category, before the Arena re-opened. Should I add that instead? Should I add both?

If I do re-open either of them, would I have a staff member or two willing to take up a second category (even if I don't re-open Sad or Fantasy, you can take up a second category if you like, as there are still two open: Jovial and To Make You Think ...)? If not, do you think it would be a good idea anyway? I'm perfectly capable of heading three or four categories, if you think that Sad and/or Fantasy would get good results, but you're too committed to other things to head a second category. However, keep in mind that as more categories are added, I will have to require more commitment from you, the staff. Tell me what you think, please.

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April 18, 2006:
Staff and friends, I had a really nice, long excuse typed out for all of you that I lost about two seconds ago because I forgot to enter the password to the page. I think you deserve the nice, long explanation, but this will have to suffice, because I really don't feel like typing it all out again.

I'm really terribly sorry about the lag in the updates on my end this week, but, as all of you know, it was a holiday. And, as not all of you know, I went home. That's about eight or nine hours by train and bus (with some sitting at a station included) to get there, and the same amount of time back. Thus, I didn't have much time for updating (a poor excuse, as I did have an hour or two on Sunday that I could have used).

Again, I'm sorry. I don't make it a habit to forget updates here, as those of you actually watching this page probably know. I promise that, by the end of today (Monday) everything will be finished. Cheers! And a happy Easter, everyone.

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July 14, 2006:
Sorry about missing so much, mates. I get too tired after work to update everything Sundays, and have no time in the mornings. I'm thinking of moving the date we update the Arena to Saturdays, instead of Sundays, because then I'll have both the time and the energy. Thoughts? Objections? Questions?

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August 19, 2006:
Alright, I have a minor problem. I know I've mentioned moving, but I never said a specific date. Well, now I have a specific date (mostly). Unless things change, I will be leaving on the 26th, and driving. Which means that I will miss updating Love... next weekend. Do I have any volunteers to cover for me just for the 26th? I'd really appreciate it!

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2006, October 2nd
Ok. I have seen that this has been lax of late. I, [KainVM] Will be taking over administratively until the Mods can coordinate to keep this operation running appropriately. I will also be asking for volunteers that know the rules by heart to review poems submitted, and will make, personally, a House dedicated account for Poetry approval. Those of you with thoughts please message me, or simply post your thoughts here. I don't think anyone aside from [Askoga] reads this so this may fall on deaf ears but at least she will know someone's been doing their part. Thank you and be well. Clear skies to you all.

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2006, October 2nd
On another note. Please remember to clean your categories out if they do not have a duel happening. Its crisp and lets users know there isn't a duel happening. Sorry lol thanks for everything everyone.

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2006, October 5th
As I have seen this is a reoccuring issue I would like to straighten some things out. There are personal reasons as to why I do not inform Askoga of what is happening. What I will not say unless asked to do so in private. I would rather not deface someone publically. If forced to do so I will. And I will let you know now I will not be polite or as kind as I have been about the subject. As for handing over the Arena to someone else. I would love to, however I would RATHER, keyword, get to know the person that I am to hand it over to. Personal reasons yet again, however for very legitimate reasons. Again if this displeases you, voice, we shall talk and settle things, but I will not simply hand it over because you think it is unfair that I am doing this behind Askoga's back. First off, I was retired with out consent, AFTER being one of the most active staff members, and I might add I quite enjoyed being a staff member. THAT has been one of the reasons I have not spoken with Askoga. And again, since I am the only one that knows the [Ergraf] house password, and she had entrusted it to me in the past, I should think that if I was trustworthy then I should still be trustworthy now. Even if done wrong by the person that trusted me. Yes I am spiteful, yes I am angry, but I am not about to stand by and watch the EWPDA start falling appart because of her absence and her failure to inform the others in her staff that she did NOT forcefully retire, that she will be inept to use Internet. For X amount of time.

However again I do apologize for this, and my attitude towards those of you that are probably reading this just to keep informed. Also, I apologize for constantly repeating myself but it seems that some things I am saying are just simply not sinking in.

Thank you all for your voices, I appreciate them and respect them, Also Acorna, should you still wish to attempt helping the wiki, Pick a category and you may supervise it and do approvals from that house should I fail to do so myself. Agreed?

I also apologize for my total butchery of the english language that I had likely done in this little snippet. Grammar was something I had not completely grasped. Which is why, I had asked you all if you would help me in my attempt to run the Arena.

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2006, October 12th
Allright. I've spoken with Askoga recently. Actually today infact. I told her I stepped in and took admin of the Arena. She gave no obvious objections to this. So, unless any of you wish to voice objections, I will retain Ergraf until she is fully able to return and take this stead with consistancy. Also I do apologize for how I have been acting before now. Thank you all for your patience, I hope that things can once again run smoothly.

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2006, October 21st
Hi everyone! I've noticed that not every one can keep up with the Saturday updates. Who of you on my staff and those offering to help would like updates changed back to the original Sundays? I know last week I was moments before SeLoCeS on updating, and really I would like to prevent rush updating for being late again. So tell me your thoughts on comments! Please note however I will not commit any changes until I hear from EVERYONE! So... be patient on the change and keep an eye out for my announcement.

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2006, November 19th
Allright time for another fun time of, RANDOM POETRY DISCUSSION CORNER! All staff members I would like to run the random Idea that was proposed by one of our newest little contestants that could in the Arena. She suggested a Ballad, or Philosophical category. I personally thing the Ballad one falls under love, and Phil under To make you think. Your thoughts on that? If you all agree I can announce that Ballads and Philosophical themed poems can now be submitted to those categories! Please note, [SeLoCeS] is fine. The psycho didn't attempt killing her. Her stunt double sprained her ankle but she'll be out of the hospital in two weeks.

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2006-04-06 [Kitara Softpaw]: Hmm....I think that Fantasy may get results and sad also. But I just wanted to suggest that maybe you should define the categories more clearly, especially if you're going to add new ones. And maybe make a statement somewhere that you could try a poem in multiple categories as long as it only dueled in one category at a time. Because some people may be willing to re-enter their poem after a loss into a perhaps more suitable category where they think it might do better. After all, some poems do fit into more than one of the categories......*shrugs* It's just a suggestion

2006-04-07 [Askoga]: What do you mean, define them more clearly? Note that if they're too defined, we will have fewer submissions in each. Also, they're mostly self-explanitory, don't you think? Dark and Sad would have to be separated, of course, but right now they're the same category. Just as Controversial, Deep Thoughts, and To Make You Think are the same category right now, and Sci-Fi and Fantasy would be the same category if I bring back Fantasy. Some of the categories have to be broad, because of our limited number of categories. However, if you think they're too broad, you're welcome to suggest a way to fix it, without making it so narrow that only one genre poem would fit.

2006-04-07 [Askoga]: For example, To Make You Think *must* be able to also have Controversial and Deep Thoughts poems in it (though Deep Thoughts was always similar to To Make You Think, anyway). I know, some poems don't really seem to fit into the categories we force them to go into now, but that's because we had to combine many of the categories, some of which didn't mesh as easily as we might have liked.

2006-04-07 [Askoga]: As for resubmitting poetry, we encourage that a poem be submitted into the category it best fits the first time. Thus, if it's resubmitted into a different category (which, as I told you once, is allowed) would mean that it doesn't fit as well. We are lenient on that, but as we get more categories, I might begin sending messages to poets who have submitted a poem that I think would fit better elsewhere, and ask them if it might be moved to that category instead. It's something I've been thinking of, as we've had a few inappropriately-placed poems (in my humble opinon) so far, though I could see why the poet placed them where they did.

2006-04-07 [Moorn]: I tend to think that final placement should be up to the crew of the arena anyway, Askoga. *nods* Informing the poets and just moving them may be the way to go, may make things easier for all involved. As for the categories, I think they're quite well-defined. My only trouble spot is with jovial and humor being mushed. A lot of people seem to think jovial just means funny, which it doesn't. It means joyful, jubilant. *nodzilla*

2006-04-07 [Kitara Softpaw]: *sighs* I didn't think they're too broad. I just think that if you add new categories that may be similar, like Sad and Dark, you have to make a clear distinction. Yesh, that is a problem with Jovial that I've noted. Maybe they need reseperated?? And yes, I know ti's allowed Askoga, I'm the one that asked. ^^

2006-04-07 [Askoga]: As we re-add categories, I'll deffinitely separate their guidelines. On the About the Categories page, it's obvious (to me, at least) that parts of some deffinitions were added later. Humor and Jovial could be separated again, if people seem interested enough in it. Right now, we get most poems in Dark, and since I don't have the time to keep up all of the original categories, and I don't have enough staff willing and able to take up more categories, I'm only going to add one or two categories at a time.

2006-04-07 [Askoga]: You guys are bringing up good points, don't you think for a moment that I'm not listening to you, for I know that most of what I've replied with is arguments, it's just that some of this is stuff I've already considered, and I used the same (or similar) arguments the first time around. Though....to me, the idea of separating the guidelines for Dark and Sad (or whichever categories I separate) logically followed separating the categories themselves. Perhaps because I saw the Arena back when it still had more categories than it does now, and I watched the guidelines be meshed in the first place.

2006-04-07 [Askoga]: Moorn, I'll take into consideration your definition of Jovial when I do separate those two categories. It's good to make the distinction clear to everyone, yup. May I put your words (joyful and jubilant) in the definition, to clear things up for others? I think I will start re-placing poems that I think are misplaced. After asking the poet's permission, of course. Now, I just wish I could get my three staff members to join this discussion......

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